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	<title>Comments on: Marketing and Learning &#8211; Division and Contrast</title>
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		<title>By: Affordable SEO Services - Terry Reeves</title>
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		<dc:creator>Affordable SEO Services - Terry Reeves</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jan 2008 19:45:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You cannot be a successful SEO of any hat without engaging your customers. Actually I find many of my potential clients are seeking me because of a lack of communication with their previous service provider. It would seem that for many SEO&#039;s/Agencies, the easy part is getting the customers in the door. The hard part is keeping them there. That takes customer service and that takes communication.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You cannot be a successful SEO of any hat without engaging your customers. Actually I find many of my potential clients are seeking me because of a lack of communication with their previous service provider. It would seem that for many SEO&#8217;s/Agencies, the easy part is getting the customers in the door. The hard part is keeping them there. That takes customer service and that takes communication.</p>
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		<title>By: pittfall</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jan 2008 01:30:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dennis,
Thanks for you comment and your honesty. 

I think that marketing online has changed and will continue to do so as more and more of us become active and incorporate the Internet with our daily lives. As this continues, I think black hat techniques will have a smaller influence on SERPs. 

I guess we will see...

Cheers!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dennis,<br />
Thanks for you comment and your honesty. </p>
<p>I think that marketing online has changed and will continue to do so as more and more of us become active and incorporate the Internet with our daily lives. As this continues, I think black hat techniques will have a smaller influence on SERPs. </p>
<p>I guess we will see&#8230;</p>
<p>Cheers!</p>
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		<title>By: Dennis Driscoll</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dennis Driscoll</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Jan 2008 16:16:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is a very good question.   When I first read I thought to myself why would you go through all of the trouble with the White Hat techniques and not bother to build relationships.

Personelly for me that dont work.   However when I first started out marketing online,  I wanted to do everything right and did not believe in building to quickly or anything that may upset the Big G. (Google)

But then I discovered that SEO takes way too much time and the Search engines change too much anyways.   One day your there and the next your gone

So I say do the basics and then write content for the customer and build relationships just like you would with any other business.   Treat them well and make them feel like a king.   Somehow when you treat someone special that you have never met it seems to pay off in terms of word of mouth.   

There is a certain feeling people get when they get treated well from a stranger on the internet.   So my main thing for promotion is to build relationships and keep them.    I have a new site that caters to Divorced Single Women where we teach about simple home repair etc.   I am not even thinking about traffic from the search engines but I am going to focus on a great membership community instead.   

Word will travel and at the same time the search engines will pick up on it.

So if I decide to blast an article out to 500 directories (what I see as black hat) at once, it will most likely bring in some fairly instant traffic and maybe a few members but the search engines will hate it.

However if I have focused on building relationships an occasional black hat technique should&#039;nt effect me much at all.

So my whole point is I think if you build strong relationships SEO becomes second instead of first.

Does this make sense to anyone as I do sometimes ramble to much

Dennis</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a very good question.   When I first read I thought to myself why would you go through all of the trouble with the White Hat techniques and not bother to build relationships.</p>
<p>Personelly for me that dont work.   However when I first started out marketing online,  I wanted to do everything right and did not believe in building to quickly or anything that may upset the Big G. (Google)</p>
<p>But then I discovered that SEO takes way too much time and the Search engines change too much anyways.   One day your there and the next your gone</p>
<p>So I say do the basics and then write content for the customer and build relationships just like you would with any other business.   Treat them well and make them feel like a king.   Somehow when you treat someone special that you have never met it seems to pay off in terms of word of mouth.   </p>
<p>There is a certain feeling people get when they get treated well from a stranger on the internet.   So my main thing for promotion is to build relationships and keep them.    I have a new site that caters to Divorced Single Women where we teach about simple home repair etc.   I am not even thinking about traffic from the search engines but I am going to focus on a great membership community instead.   </p>
<p>Word will travel and at the same time the search engines will pick up on it.</p>
<p>So if I decide to blast an article out to 500 directories (what I see as black hat) at once, it will most likely bring in some fairly instant traffic and maybe a few members but the search engines will hate it.</p>
<p>However if I have focused on building relationships an occasional black hat technique should&#8217;nt effect me much at all.</p>
<p>So my whole point is I think if you build strong relationships SEO becomes second instead of first.</p>
<p>Does this make sense to anyone as I do sometimes ramble to much</p>
<p>Dennis</p>
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