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	<title>Comments on: Relevancy &#8211; The Ultimate Google Killer</title>
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		<title>By: Steve</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Jun 2009 22:16:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Whenever I&#039;ve used Yahoo or MSN, the sites that get returned to me always seemed less relevant to my search.  At the same time, though, I make very refined searches, as I usually looking for a precise answer to a technical question (how to do something in Python, or with AJAX, for example).  As soon as Google stops returning useful results for those searches, I&#039;ll gladly switch.

It&#039;s why I started using Google in the first place in &#039;99 -- their results were infinitely better than Yahoo&#039;s at the time.  I don&#039;t want to waste my time wading through useless results.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whenever I&#8217;ve used Yahoo or MSN, the sites that get returned to me always seemed less relevant to my search.  At the same time, though, I make very refined searches, as I usually looking for a precise answer to a technical question (how to do something in Python, or with AJAX, for example).  As soon as Google stops returning useful results for those searches, I&#8217;ll gladly switch.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s why I started using Google in the first place in &#8217;99 &#8212; their results were infinitely better than Yahoo&#8217;s at the time.  I don&#8217;t want to waste my time wading through useless results.</p>
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		<title>By: Science of Identity</title>
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		<dc:creator>Science of Identity</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Feb 2009 07:25:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very interesting post. It actually got me thinking... I&#039;ve been putting up with google for years, just because that&#039;s what I&#039;m used to.  I&#039;m not great with change, so the few times I&#039;ve tried other search engines I just end up going back to google, because that&#039;s what I&#039;m used to. But yes, their relevancy is pretty bad. 
Maybe I&#039;ll try &quot;expanding my horizons&quot; with another search engine again ;).

Anyway, it&#039;ll be interesting to see how things go with google in the future.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very interesting post. It actually got me thinking&#8230; I&#8217;ve been putting up with google for years, just because that&#8217;s what I&#8217;m used to.  I&#8217;m not great with change, so the few times I&#8217;ve tried other search engines I just end up going back to google, because that&#8217;s what I&#8217;m used to. But yes, their relevancy is pretty bad.<br />
Maybe I&#8217;ll try &#8220;expanding my horizons&#8221; with another search engine again <img src='http://www.seopittfall.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> .</p>
<p>Anyway, it&#8217;ll be interesting to see how things go with google in the future.</p>
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		<title>By: Scott</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Feb 2009 12:45:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree google has become a little cluttered.  Rajit, the internet is a big game.  The best SEO&#039;d sites get ranked.  Keep in mind there is bad and good SEO.  Trying to get backlinks from commenting on blogs with irrelevent info is considered bad.  I&#039;m sure everyone knows that though..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree google has become a little cluttered.  Rajit, the internet is a big game.  The best SEO&#8217;d sites get ranked.  Keep in mind there is bad and good SEO.  Trying to get backlinks from commenting on blogs with irrelevent info is considered bad.  I&#8217;m sure everyone knows that though..</p>
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		<title>By: Grand Rapids Web Design</title>
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		<dc:creator>Grand Rapids Web Design</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Jan 2009 23:45:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree that if anyone wants to take down Google they need to increase their relevancy.  Same thing goes for Google if they want to continue their market share, they need to increase their relevancy.  Interesting post never the less.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree that if anyone wants to take down Google they need to increase their relevancy.  Same thing goes for Google if they want to continue their market share, they need to increase their relevancy.  Interesting post never the less.</p>
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		<title>By: Nick- print design blackburn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nick- print design blackburn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jan 2009 10:54:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think there is a fine line between penalising the spammers and a local webmaster who isnt search savy . In a lot of local searches you tend to find results not as relevant sa you would want them . A lot of the times directories come up which is annoying hopefully the guys at google will come up with something to improve relevancy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think there is a fine line between penalising the spammers and a local webmaster who isnt search savy . In a lot of local searches you tend to find results not as relevant sa you would want them . A lot of the times directories come up which is annoying hopefully the guys at google will come up with something to improve relevancy.</p>
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		<title>By: Rajit Khadgi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rajit Khadgi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Jan 2009 04:41:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks a lot for the info ... my view is Google sucks as a search engine .. the only links it shows up are the SEOed site are irrelevent ...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks a lot for the info &#8230; my view is Google sucks as a search engine .. the only links it shows up are the SEOed site are irrelevent &#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: pittfall</title>
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		<dc:creator>pittfall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Jan 2009 00:54:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Phenomenal 

Thanks for the comment. I agree that semantic search results are useful, however, I don&#039;t think that it is quite ready for a general audience, and that might soon change. I also think that there is a place for niche or vertical engines such as the one suggested, but it is also limited only to the topical areas.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Phenomenal </p>
<p>Thanks for the comment. I agree that semantic search results are useful, however, I don&#8217;t think that it is quite ready for a general audience, and that might soon change. I also think that there is a place for niche or vertical engines such as the one suggested, but it is also limited only to the topical areas.</p>
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		<title>By: Phenomenal</title>
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		<dc:creator>Phenomenal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Jan 2009 06:14:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Enjoyed this article and comments posted.

I agree that SEO strategies are dampening the relevance of results in Google and think that vertical search and (even more importantly) semantic search engines, are the way forward for attaining the most useful results. 

Even though MSN and Yahoo have slightly less commercialized results, they still fall a long way short of those on verticalized semantic search. I believe on Michelles post earlier she referenced one of the engines www.searchsupplychainlogistics.net 

There are others too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Enjoyed this article and comments posted.</p>
<p>I agree that SEO strategies are dampening the relevance of results in Google and think that vertical search and (even more importantly) semantic search engines, are the way forward for attaining the most useful results. </p>
<p>Even though MSN and Yahoo have slightly less commercialized results, they still fall a long way short of those on verticalized semantic search. I believe on Michelles post earlier she referenced one of the engines <a href="http://www.searchsupplychainlogistics.net" rel="nofollow">http://www.searchsupplychainlogistics.net</a> </p>
<p>There are others too.</p>
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		<title>By: pittfall</title>
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		<dc:creator>pittfall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Jan 2009 01:34:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Alex

Thanks for the comment. I think that there are some that are working very diligently to find the secret sauce to getting to the top quickly, however, I don&#039;t see it being a viable long term answer to marketing online. I think that if you offer something that the user wants, the engines will want to send them to you, because it speaks highly of the relevancy for their results.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Alex</p>
<p>Thanks for the comment. I think that there are some that are working very diligently to find the secret sauce to getting to the top quickly, however, I don&#8217;t see it being a viable long term answer to marketing online. I think that if you offer something that the user wants, the engines will want to send them to you, because it speaks highly of the relevancy for their results.</p>
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		<title>By: Alex &#124; Fast VPN</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alex &#124; Fast VPN</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Jan 2009 06:50:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It would be also good that Google and others will do something with spammed and hacked links when you look for medecine or similar. Those blackhat guys it seems always win:)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It would be also good that Google and others will do something with spammed and hacked links when you look for medecine or similar. Those blackhat guys it seems always win:)</p>
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		<title>By: pittfall</title>
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		<dc:creator>pittfall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Jan 2009 20:51:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Tapan

Thanks for the comment. I would have to agree that the engines are really focused on what is readily accessible and ready for mass consumption. I think that a lot of effort is still need to become more relevant to local areas not represented online.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Tapan</p>
<p>Thanks for the comment. I would have to agree that the engines are really focused on what is readily accessible and ready for mass consumption. I think that a lot of effort is still need to become more relevant to local areas not represented online.</p>
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		<title>By: Tapan Bhanot</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tapan Bhanot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Jan 2009 11:37:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I  have noticed that due to some of the features which makes it simple and sometimes even free over others is making it grow. I am wondering why other giants are not doing the same pattern of offering free stuff to generate income thing ?

MSN/Yahoo etc. could have went much ahead but they are way too busy in tring to compete instead of making their site easy to use and provide accurate results. Everyone is busy optimizing their site for google and not for any other SE and google is taking advantage of only this.

I hope some day there will be something better. For eg. I am searching for something in my local area but I am getting websites which does&#039;nt even belong anywhere near to that area even when i am using the local earch engine. Is pointless.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I  have noticed that due to some of the features which makes it simple and sometimes even free over others is making it grow. I am wondering why other giants are not doing the same pattern of offering free stuff to generate income thing ?</p>
<p>MSN/Yahoo etc. could have went much ahead but they are way too busy in tring to compete instead of making their site easy to use and provide accurate results. Everyone is busy optimizing their site for google and not for any other SE and google is taking advantage of only this.</p>
<p>I hope some day there will be something better. For eg. I am searching for something in my local area but I am getting websites which does&#8217;nt even belong anywhere near to that area even when i am using the local earch engine. Is pointless.</p>
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		<title>By: pittfall</title>
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		<dc:creator>pittfall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Jan 2009 17:12:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ The Wizard,

Thanks for the comment. I agree that the commercialization is what keeps Google running, actually it is the life blood of the engine.  Relevancy is a qualitative, not a quantitative means, meaning that it is not measurable through a mathematical or algorithmically. So, relevancy is in the eye, or mind, of the searcher, not the other way around.

You make a good point about users being content with their particular engine(s). 

As far as relevancy from web sites, I think that this is not relevant to the topic. Spam is spam, not SEO or any other, just plain SPAM! The concept is for search engines to remove this from their index. I agree that publishers should continue to stay relevant.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ The Wizard,</p>
<p>Thanks for the comment. I agree that the commercialization is what keeps Google running, actually it is the life blood of the engine.  Relevancy is a qualitative, not a quantitative means, meaning that it is not measurable through a mathematical or algorithmically. So, relevancy is in the eye, or mind, of the searcher, not the other way around.</p>
<p>You make a good point about users being content with their particular engine(s). </p>
<p>As far as relevancy from web sites, I think that this is not relevant to the topic. Spam is spam, not SEO or any other, just plain SPAM! The concept is for search engines to remove this from their index. I agree that publishers should continue to stay relevant.</p>
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		<title>By: pittfall</title>
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		<dc:creator>pittfall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Jan 2009 16:49:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Tina

Thanks for the comment.  I don&#039;t think that Google is ignoring the idea that relevancy will drive users away, but at the same time, they have to keep a balance. The commercialization concern is noted, however, they also have to have relevancy there as well to keep the clicks coming to pay for their efforts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Tina</p>
<p>Thanks for the comment.  I don&#8217;t think that Google is ignoring the idea that relevancy will drive users away, but at the same time, they have to keep a balance. The commercialization concern is noted, however, they also have to have relevancy there as well to keep the clicks coming to pay for their efforts.</p>
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		<title>By: The Wizard</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Wizard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Jan 2009 15:48:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We can all wish for a less commercialized Google but it will not happen. Since they keyword here is relevancy and I see comments regarding higher relevancy from MSN and Yahoo, is how do we know this. I am under the assumption that 99% of searchers are in a rut and stick with the same search engine

And even as we type Google is increasing share yet again in the last quarter so they must be keeping the masses happy.

Maybe relevancy can land in the lap of web site owners and create relevant content that is real and not just SEO spam</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We can all wish for a less commercialized Google but it will not happen. Since they keyword here is relevancy and I see comments regarding higher relevancy from MSN and Yahoo, is how do we know this. I am under the assumption that 99% of searchers are in a rut and stick with the same search engine</p>
<p>And even as we type Google is increasing share yet again in the last quarter so they must be keeping the masses happy.</p>
<p>Maybe relevancy can land in the lap of web site owners and create relevant content that is real and not just SEO spam</p>
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		<title>By: Darrin Grella</title>
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		<dc:creator>Darrin Grella</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Jan 2009 23:50:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Stephen,

I enjoyed this post.  Very good data and interpretation of such. Thank, I got me thinking.

DPG</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stephen,</p>
<p>I enjoyed this post.  Very good data and interpretation of such. Thank, I got me thinking.</p>
<p>DPG</p>
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		<title>By: craig</title>
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		<dc:creator>craig</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Jan 2009 21:58:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah the search results in yahoo and msn seem to be extremely relevant, instead of commercialized. Google has too many listings that are in directories or phone books with irrelevant information. I would like to see google remove some of the clutter at the top of search results and focus in on the most relevant or the most local of the searches.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah the search results in yahoo and msn seem to be extremely relevant, instead of commercialized. Google has too many listings that are in directories or phone books with irrelevant information. I would like to see google remove some of the clutter at the top of search results and focus in on the most relevant or the most local of the searches.</p>
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		<title>By: Tina &#124; Foreclosure Listings</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tina &#124; Foreclosure Listings</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Jan 2009 08:01:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just like Michelle I also completely agree with your analysis.  Google the biggest giant today but as  I see it they&#039;re beginning to like the Yahoo when yahoo where on the lead.  Too much commercialization, it become too annoying most of the time.  When you try to research something google spit-out some nonsense and loads of ads.  You&#039;re absolutely right about your opinion, RELEVANCY, they should stick to idea of relevancy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just like Michelle I also completely agree with your analysis.  Google the biggest giant today but as  I see it they&#8217;re beginning to like the Yahoo when yahoo where on the lead.  Too much commercialization, it become too annoying most of the time.  When you try to research something google spit-out some nonsense and loads of ads.  You&#8217;re absolutely right about your opinion, RELEVANCY, they should stick to idea of relevancy.</p>
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		<title>By: pittfall</title>
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		<dc:creator>pittfall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Jan 2009 01:53:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Michelle

Thanks for the comment. Vertical engines absolutely have a place within the relevancy of the Internet, they stay laser focused and are useful to their target audience. The biggest challenge, which I have first hand experience, it is a big challenge to keep adding additional content to these types of indexes. This is the biggest limitation of vertical engines. I helped build a travel search engine for websites, not a booking engine like kayak and others. Sending our spiders to relevant content was the biggest challenge. I think that there are some very good niche directories that could or would fill this hole as well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Michelle</p>
<p>Thanks for the comment. Vertical engines absolutely have a place within the relevancy of the Internet, they stay laser focused and are useful to their target audience. The biggest challenge, which I have first hand experience, it is a big challenge to keep adding additional content to these types of indexes. This is the biggest limitation of vertical engines. I helped build a travel search engine for websites, not a booking engine like kayak and others. Sending our spiders to relevant content was the biggest challenge. I think that there are some very good niche directories that could or would fill this hole as well.</p>
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		<title>By: Michelle</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michelle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Jan 2009 00:45:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I completely agree with your analysis here. The reason I hardly ever use Google anymore is that for my purposes the results just are not relevant enough. I use the engine www.searchsupplychainlogistics.net which cuts out all the useless links and focuses on my business area. Any thoughts on the future of these very specific search engines, and how they may affect Google?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I completely agree with your analysis here. The reason I hardly ever use Google anymore is that for my purposes the results just are not relevant enough. I use the engine <a href="http://www.searchsupplychainlogistics.net" rel="nofollow">http://www.searchsupplychainlogistics.net</a> which cuts out all the useless links and focuses on my business area. Any thoughts on the future of these very specific search engines, and how they may affect Google?</p>
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