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	<title>Comments on: Why DMOZ Sucks and Wikipedia is Nothing More Than a Blog</title>
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		<title>By: Francheska Huang</title>
		<link>http://www.seopittfall.com/why-dmoz-sucks-and-wikipedia-is-nothing-more-than-a-blog/comment-page-1#comment-80339</link>
		<dc:creator>Francheska Huang</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Sep 2010 04:33:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For me, Wikipedia have much relevant information and can also be reliable in different researches. It really depends on the user.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For me, Wikipedia have much relevant information and can also be reliable in different researches. It really depends on the user.</p>
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		<title>By: DRK</title>
		<link>http://www.seopittfall.com/why-dmoz-sucks-and-wikipedia-is-nothing-more-than-a-blog/comment-page-1#comment-49208</link>
		<dc:creator>DRK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Jul 2009 03:07:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Of course comparing the number of results between dmoz and google doesn&#039;t make any sense.  They are intended for different searches. The same happens with wikipedia which isn&#039;t a search engine but an encyclopaedia.
&lt;strong&gt;DMOZ sucks&lt;/strong&gt; because its content is outdated, partial and incomplete. As the result of the idiotic behaviour of their editors.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Of course comparing the number of results between dmoz and google doesn&#8217;t make any sense.  They are intended for different searches. The same happens with wikipedia which isn&#8217;t a search engine but an encyclopaedia.<br />
<strong>DMOZ sucks</strong> because its content is outdated, partial and incomplete. As the result of the idiotic behaviour of their editors.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Arkwright</title>
		<link>http://www.seopittfall.com/why-dmoz-sucks-and-wikipedia-is-nothing-more-than-a-blog/comment-page-1#comment-48293</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Arkwright</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Jul 2009 04:57:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>DMOZ is still valuable. The reason you get so many results from the search engines is that search engines are not human edited. On DMOZ, volunteer editors actually go to the page and decide whether or not the content of the website is valid, unique, and worthwhile, plus it is at their discretion.

And while yes, that sucks for lots of people desperately trying to get their site listed, it&#039;s great for those who are already listed because their sites passed inspection.

It means that the directory is exclusive, which google likes, and therefore they scrape the DMOZ dump file and use it for their own directory.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>DMOZ is still valuable. The reason you get so many results from the search engines is that search engines are not human edited. On DMOZ, volunteer editors actually go to the page and decide whether or not the content of the website is valid, unique, and worthwhile, plus it is at their discretion.</p>
<p>And while yes, that sucks for lots of people desperately trying to get their site listed, it&#8217;s great for those who are already listed because their sites passed inspection.</p>
<p>It means that the directory is exclusive, which google likes, and therefore they scrape the DMOZ dump file and use it for their own directory.</p>
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		<title>By: Jack</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Apr 2009 21:09:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you! DMOZ is a horrible directory and should not be granted any credence with regard to Search Engine consideration. The entire premise is flawed, and the way it is designed means that it can never hope to actually keep up with the pace at which the internet expands. The sooner we forget about DMOZ the better we&#039;ll all be.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you! DMOZ is a horrible directory and should not be granted any credence with regard to Search Engine consideration. The entire premise is flawed, and the way it is designed means that it can never hope to actually keep up with the pace at which the internet expands. The sooner we forget about DMOZ the better we&#8217;ll all be.</p>
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		<title>By: Brett</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Mar 2009 13:37:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The DMOZ sucks.  Over the last 3 years I have followed every guideline for submitting my sites and NOTHING.  I tried and tried and no one will add the sites.  I followed their guidelines to a tee.  They are self-serving jerks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The DMOZ sucks.  Over the last 3 years I have followed every guideline for submitting my sites and NOTHING.  I tried and tried and no one will add the sites.  I followed their guidelines to a tee.  They are self-serving jerks.</p>
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		<title>By: pittfall</title>
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		<dc:creator>pittfall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jan 2009 16:20:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Damien,

First, thank you for your comment. Second, I wasn&#039;t comparing DMOZ and Wikipedia, rather discussing two prominent websites in search engine results for multiple topics.

My remark about the Google listing in Wikipedia is only 3,000 words is relevant to the fact that there is a whole lot more information that would be included if this article explored all of what Google is, so my point is that there isn&#039;t enough information included.

I have read the DMOZ blog, which was not active at the time of publication of this article in March of 2007. Still, little has changed in relation to the value of the content that both DMOZ and Wikipedia offers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Damien,</p>
<p>First, thank you for your comment. Second, I wasn&#8217;t comparing DMOZ and Wikipedia, rather discussing two prominent websites in search engine results for multiple topics.</p>
<p>My remark about the Google listing in Wikipedia is only 3,000 words is relevant to the fact that there is a whole lot more information that would be included if this article explored all of what Google is, so my point is that there isn&#8217;t enough information included.</p>
<p>I have read the DMOZ blog, which was not active at the time of publication of this article in March of 2007. Still, little has changed in relation to the value of the content that both DMOZ and Wikipedia offers.</p>
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		<title>By: Damien</title>
		<link>http://www.seopittfall.com/why-dmoz-sucks-and-wikipedia-is-nothing-more-than-a-blog/comment-page-1#comment-39256</link>
		<dc:creator>Damien</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jan 2009 07:08:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lol you&#039;re making a conclusion by comparing two different things.

Between the dmoz category and the Google results, look at the Google results. You&#039;ll see there&#039;s a lot of them that aren&#039;t companies but that provides informations.
In that category of dmoz, you&#039;ll see *only* companies. So it&#039;s more relevant.

For Wikipedia, I also don&#039;t see how you can consider that an article is irrelevant because there are less words than the number of results in Google. Those results in the search engine are, for most of them, saying the same thing. Are you suggesting that Wikipedia should be much more consistent but repeat itself 50 times in the same article ?

Moreover, you&#039;re saying that dmoz is going without a captain, and direction. Well if you interested yourself a bit more to the project before saying that kind of thing, you wouldn&#039;t say that.
Dmoz is having a captain. His name is Bob Keating. And they have a direction, even if the next big change for the directory isn&#039;t public yet and only editors are having access to it.
Perhaps you should read the official dmoz blog : http://dmoz.org
And the post about the staff : http://blog.dmoz.org/2009/01/08/meet-aols-dmoz-staff-team/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lol you&#8217;re making a conclusion by comparing two different things.</p>
<p>Between the dmoz category and the Google results, look at the Google results. You&#8217;ll see there&#8217;s a lot of them that aren&#8217;t companies but that provides informations.<br />
In that category of dmoz, you&#8217;ll see *only* companies. So it&#8217;s more relevant.</p>
<p>For Wikipedia, I also don&#8217;t see how you can consider that an article is irrelevant because there are less words than the number of results in Google. Those results in the search engine are, for most of them, saying the same thing. Are you suggesting that Wikipedia should be much more consistent but repeat itself 50 times in the same article ?</p>
<p>Moreover, you&#8217;re saying that dmoz is going without a captain, and direction. Well if you interested yourself a bit more to the project before saying that kind of thing, you wouldn&#8217;t say that.<br />
Dmoz is having a captain. His name is Bob Keating. And they have a direction, even if the next big change for the directory isn&#8217;t public yet and only editors are having access to it.<br />
Perhaps you should read the official dmoz blog : <a href="http://dmoz.org" >http://dmoz.org</a><br />
And the post about the staff : <a href="http://blog.dmoz.org/2009/01/08/meet-aols-dmoz-staff-team/" >http://blog.dmoz.org/2009/01/08/meet-aols-dmoz-staff-team/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Akash Chatterjee</title>
		<link>http://www.seopittfall.com/why-dmoz-sucks-and-wikipedia-is-nothing-more-than-a-blog/comment-page-1#comment-33006</link>
		<dc:creator>Akash Chatterjee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jul 2008 08:01:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi,
Are you insane? Only shitheads like you would be worried about the number of results rather than the relevancy of the results returned. I mean why would I bother, if a query is fetching 2 billion hits courtesy a search engine, when I cannot even browse through&#039;em even in my wildest dreams? Makes sense?
More importantly, the search engines cannot differential between a spam and a relevant information so there&#039;s no way can you rely on them.
I agree even Wikipedia cannot be trusted to the core, but still it&#039;s comparatively better and trust worthy, if not superlatively :)
Cheers!!
Akash</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi,<br />
Are you insane? Only shitheads like you would be worried about the number of results rather than the relevancy of the results returned. I mean why would I bother, if a query is fetching 2 billion hits courtesy a search engine, when I cannot even browse through&#8217;em even in my wildest dreams? Makes sense?<br />
More importantly, the search engines cannot differential between a spam and a relevant information so there&#8217;s no way can you rely on them.<br />
I agree even Wikipedia cannot be trusted to the core, but still it&#8217;s comparatively better and trust worthy, if not superlatively <img src='http://www.seopittfall.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
Cheers!!<br />
Akash</p>
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		<title>By: pittfall</title>
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		<dc:creator>pittfall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Mar 2007 23:33:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ben,

I know how you feel. It seems that many of the most competitive verticals on the Internet are even tougher when websites like DMOZ seemingly hold it against many of us and the search engines place so much value on being included.

Personally, I have been intent on being listed in DMOZ for well over three years and have had no reply or consideration. It makes me feel like there is an empty landfill of quality websites that are just invisible to the editors.

That is why I would like the search engines to lower the value placed upon websites that continually fail to update content or at least better themselves like DMOZ.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ben,</p>
<p>I know how you feel. It seems that many of the most competitive verticals on the Internet are even tougher when websites like DMOZ seemingly hold it against many of us and the search engines place so much value on being included.</p>
<p>Personally, I have been intent on being listed in DMOZ for well over three years and have had no reply or consideration. It makes me feel like there is an empty landfill of quality websites that are just invisible to the editors.</p>
<p>That is why I would like the search engines to lower the value placed upon websites that continually fail to update content or at least better themselves like DMOZ.</p>
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		<title>By: Ben Edsall</title>
		<link>http://www.seopittfall.com/why-dmoz-sucks-and-wikipedia-is-nothing-more-than-a-blog/comment-page-1#comment-1463</link>
		<dc:creator>Ben Edsall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Mar 2007 02:39:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>DMOZ sucks! I have repeatedly tried to submit http://www.turnkeyproperties.org to DMOZ, I finally just gave up. If a competitor happens to be one of the moderators your screwed!

I have a Google of 4, I have great presence on most other search engines, but I do not exist on DMOZ.

DMOZ has no place in the real SEO world. It should be considered irrelevent by the other search engines.

Furthermore I operate in both Kansas and Missouri, I offer commercial and residential property mangement, sales and leasing. I even work with a large quantity of investment property.

DMOZ will allow me to choose one catagory, property management, real estate, residential or commercial. They also offer no option for serving more than one area IE Kansas and MIssouri.

I can&#039;t immagine if I were a business that served a tri-state area like NJ, NY, CT or the Souxland in IA, NE, SD.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>DMOZ sucks! I have repeatedly tried to submit <a href="http://www.turnkeyproperties.org" >http://www.turnkeyproperties.org</a> to DMOZ, I finally just gave up. If a competitor happens to be one of the moderators your screwed!</p>
<p>I have a Google of 4, I have great presence on most other search engines, but I do not exist on DMOZ.</p>
<p>DMOZ has no place in the real SEO world. It should be considered irrelevent by the other search engines.</p>
<p>Furthermore I operate in both Kansas and Missouri, I offer commercial and residential property mangement, sales and leasing. I even work with a large quantity of investment property.</p>
<p>DMOZ will allow me to choose one catagory, property management, real estate, residential or commercial. They also offer no option for serving more than one area IE Kansas and MIssouri.</p>
<p>I can&#8217;t immagine if I were a business that served a tri-state area like NJ, NY, CT or the Souxland in IA, NE, SD.</p>
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		<title>By: pittfall</title>
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		<dc:creator>pittfall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Mar 2007 01:48:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Clickfire,

I can appreciate this! I battle with these same results and now YouTube has really had an affect too! The only good thing about Wikipedia is that they are marketing anything... yet!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Clickfire,</p>
<p>I can appreciate this! I battle with these same results and now YouTube has really had an affect too! The only good thing about Wikipedia is that they are marketing anything&#8230; yet!</p>
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		<title>By: Clickfire</title>
		<link>http://www.seopittfall.com/why-dmoz-sucks-and-wikipedia-is-nothing-more-than-a-blog/comment-page-1#comment-390</link>
		<dc:creator>Clickfire</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Mar 2007 05:09:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I find that whatever vertical I am competing in for Google rankings--travel, health, tech or anything--Wikipedia is always there in the first few top positions and not exactly easy to knock off. Kind of frustrating at times.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I find that whatever vertical I am competing in for Google rankings&#8211;travel, health, tech or anything&#8211;Wikipedia is always there in the first few top positions and not exactly easy to knock off. Kind of frustrating at times.</p>
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